CREW MEMBER PROFILE

Surname:

ROACH

First Name/s:

Charles William Francis "Chas or Charlie"

Service No/s:

1321147 & 148387

Service:

RAFVR

Branch:

Air Bomber

Awards:

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SERVICE RECORDS

Date

Event

Aircraft Flown

29 Jun 1941

Enlisted at Oxford as Aircraftman Second Class (AC2), aged 19. He was recommended for training as Observer or Pilot and mustered as Aircrew Hand (ACH) / Observer

30 Jun 1941

Transferred to the Reserve pending call-up

06 Oct 1941

Called up at No.1 Aircrew Reception Centre (ACRC), St John's Wood, London

18 Oct 1941

No.1 Initial Training Wing (ITW), Babbacombe, Devon

11 Dec 1941

Promoted to Leading Aircraftman (LAC) on completion of his Initial Training, re-mustering as U/T Observer

08 Jan 1942

Embarked UK for South Africa (post and vessel n/k)

31 Jan 1942

Disembarked in Durban, South Africa (precise date n/k)

14 Feb 1942

No.75 Air School (AS), Lytteltown, Pretoria

13 Mar 1942

No.41 Air School (AS), 9 Course, East London to commence Observer training

Anson, Battle, Oxford

18 Jul 1942

Qualified as Air Bomber, Air Gunner and Observer. Awarded Observers (O) flying badge, promoted to Sgt, and re-mustered as Air Observer. Following his course he was recommended for specialist training after further experience

20 Jul 1942

AFTC (possibly Advanced Flying Training Course), Pollsmor (location not found

01 Aug 1942

Embarked S Africa for the UK (port and vessel n/k) Precise date not known

06 Sep 1942

No.3 Personnel Reception Centre (PRC), Bournemouth, Dorset

20 Sep 1942

No.10 (Observer) Advanced Flying Unit ((O) AFU), Dumfries, Dumfriesshire, Scotland

Anson

13 Oct 1942

No.9 (1661) Heavy Conversion Unit (HCU), Waddington, Lincolnshire; joined the P A F Hawkins crew

Manchester

01 Nov 1942

Attached to No.1485 Air Bomber Training Flight (ABTF), Fulbeck, Nottinghamshire

Oxford

16 Nov 1942

Returned to No.9 (1661) HCU, Waddington, Lincolnshire

Lancaster

29 Nov 1942

No.57 Squadron, 'A' Flight, Scampton, Lincolnshire, flying mostly with the P A F Hawkins crew
Operations:
06 Dec 42 - Frisian Islands; mine-laying ('Gardening'); landed at Docking
31 Dec 42 - Gironde estuary; 'Gardening'; landed at Docking
08 Jan 43 - Duisburg; landed at Tangmere
13 Jan 43 - Essen
16 Jan 43 - Berlin (narrative attached below); landed at Docking due to shortage of fuel
21 Jan 43 - Essen; returned early due to the engine(s) overheating
04 Feb 43 - Turin; engine failure; landed at Graveley
11 Feb 43 - Wilhelmshafen
13 Feb 43 - L'Orient
14 Feb 43 - Milan; engine failure
19 Feb 43 - Wilhelmshaven
25 Feb 43 - Nuremburg; DNCO; returned early following an engine failure
26 Feb 43 - Cologne; jettisoned 6 small bomb containers of incendiaries (reason n/k)
01 Mar 43 - Berlin
04 Mar 43 - Munich; DNCO; returned after three hours following engine problems
04 Mar 43 - Danzig Bay ('Gardening'); landed at Downham Market
09 Mar 43 - Munich; returned early following an engine failure
11 Mar 43 - Stuttgart
22 Mar 43 - St Nazaire; landed at Stanton Harcourt
26 Mar 43 - Duisburg; DNCO; returned early following engine problems
09 Apr 43 - Duisburg
10 Apr 43 - Frankfurt
13 Apr 43 - La Spezia
16 Apr 43 - Pilsen
26 Apr 43 - Duisburg
30 Apr 43 - Essen; flown with the Fg Off Wilson crew
12 May 43 - Duisburg; flown with the Flt Lt Greig crew
13 May 43 - Pilsen; DNCO; flown with the Sqn Ldr Smith crew; returned early following engine problems. Load jettisoned 35 miles West of Texel
23 May 43 - Dortmund
25 May 43 - Dusseldorf
29 May 43 - Wuppertal; starboard inner engine failure; bombs jettisoned on an aerodrome at 5122N 00456E - probably Weelde

Lancaster

02 Jun 1943

Discharged on appointment to a Commission

03 Jun 1943

Commissioned as a Pilot Officer on probation (emergency) (London Gazette 24 Aug 43, page 3789)

11 Jun 1943

Resumed operations with No.57 Squadron, Scampton, Lincolnshire
11 Jun 43 - Dusseldorf; DNCO: returned early due to an unserviceable rear turret
12 Jun 43 - Bochum; engine failure
20 Jun 43 - Friedrichshafen; planned landing at Maison Blanche, Algeria
23 Jun 43 - La Spezia; operated from Maison Blanche, Algeria; attacked the target but had to return to Maison Blanche owing to an engine failure which made it impracticable to cross the Alps. The aircraft returned to base via Blida and Gibraltar on the 24-27 June
28 Jun 43 - Cologne; DNCO; returned early owing to illness of the pilot

Lancaster

13 Aug 1943

Attached to RAF Scampton as supernumery pending posting overseas

29 Sep 1943

No.1577 Research and Development Unit (RDU), Llandow, Glamorgan, Wales. Sqn Ldr J H Leland crew
Roach: 'After completing my tour of operations I was asked by Squadron Leader Leland if I was interested in going to India for about six months with 1577 RDU. We were to take two Lancasters and two Halifaxes, together with civilian reps. from the two aircraft manufacturers AVRO and Handley Page. The operation was to carry out various tests to ascertain the performance in Indian and Burmese conditions preparatory to using these aircraft against the Japanese if suitable'.
26 Sep 43 - Llandrow to Portreath
29 Sep 43 - Portreath to Rabat Sale, Morocco
30 Sep 43 - Rabat Sale to Castel Benito, Tripoli, Libya
01 Oct 43 - Castel Benito to Cairo West, Egypt
03 Oct 43 - Cairo West - Mauripur, India

Halifax, Lancaster

05 Oct 1943

No.1577 RDU is renamed 1577 (Special Duties) Flight
09 Oct 43 - Mauripur, India to Salbani, Bengal, India
Followed by multiple test flights and towing trials of Hamilcar and Horsa heavy gliders

Lancaster

03 Dec 1943

Promoted to Flying Officer on probation (war substantive) (London Gazette 03 Dec 43, page 5289)

31 Dec 1943

No.1577 (Special Duties Flight); flew General William Slim, Officer Commanding the 14th Army from Comilla to Delhi, returning on 02 Jan 44

Lancaster

22 Feb 1944

No.1577 (Special Duties) Flight moved to Cawnpore (Chakeri), India

Lancaster, Halifax, Anson

25 Apr 1944

Taken on strength with Air Command South East Asia (ACSEA) still with No.1577 (Special Duties) Flight
09 Nov 44 - Departs Mauripur for the long return flight back to the UK via Shuriban, Iraq; Cairo, Egypt; Luqa, Malta; Elmas, Sardinia; Istres, France; Lyneham and finally landing at Pershore on 16 Nov 44

Lancaster, Wellington, Dakota

09 Nov 1944

Taken on strength at No.1 Personal Despatch Centre, West Kirby, Cheshire

11 Dec 1944

Air Crew allocation Centre (ACAC), Brackla, Nairn, Scotland

15 Jan 1945

No.20 Operational Training Unit (OTU), Lossiemouth, Moray, Scotland; joins the W F Weller crew

Wellington

14 Mar 1945

No.71 Base, Lindholme, Yorkshire; administrative Base for No.7 Group heavy bomber conversions

15 Mar 1945

No.1656 Heavy Conversion Unit (HCU), Lindholme, Yorkshire

Lancaster

07 May 1945

No.576 Squadron, 'B' Flight, Fiskerton, Lincolnshire, with the W F Weller crew

Lancaster

03 Jun 1945

Promoted to Flight Lieutenant (war substantive) (London Gazette 29 June 1945, page 3401)

16 Sep 1945

No.50 Squadron, 'B' Flight, Sturgate, Lincolnshire, with the W F Weller crew
Ops:
29 Sep - 01 Oct 45 - Base-Pomigliano-Glatton-Base; Operation DODGE

Lancaster

16 Jan 1946

Bomber Command Instructors School (BCIS), Finningley, Yorkshire

13 Feb 1946

No.1668 Heavy Conversion Unit (HCU), Cottesmore, Rutland, as an instructor

Lancaster

20 Mar 1946

No.11 Aircrew Holding Unit (ACHU), Bruntingthorpe, Leicestershire

06 May 1946

RAF Station Waddington, Lincolnshire, as U/T Administrator

18 Jun 1946

No.100 Personnel Disposal Centre (PDC), Uxbridge, Middlesex, for discharge from the Service

19 Jun 1946

Discharged from the Service 'on demobilisation'

576 Squadron FLYING RECORDS

Date

Aircraft

Code

Flight Details

T/O

Land

Flt Time

Crew

25 Jun 1945

LM294

UL-P

FLENSBURG

0655

1200

5h05

P1   Plt Off W.F. Weller
P2   
FE   Sgt A.V. Manning
AB   Flt Lt C.W.F. Roach
NAV  Fg Off H.M. MacDonald
WOp  Flt Sgt J. McNeill
MUG  Sgt R.A. Jones
RG   Sgt P.R. Soames

NOTES:

Exercise POST MORTEM 1

25 Aug 1945

RA563

UL-Q

FISKERTON TO POMIGLIANO

0720

1425

7h05

P1   Plt Off W.F. Weller
P2   
FE   Sgt A.V. Manning
AB   Flt Lt C.W.F. Roach
NAV  Fg Off H.M. MacDonald
WOp  Flt Sgt J. McNeill
MUG  Sgt R.A. Jones
RG   

NOTES:

Operation DODGE

28 Aug 1945

RA563

UL-Q

POMIGLIANO TO GLATTON

nk

nk

6h10

P1   Plt Off W.F. Weller
P2   
FE   Sgt A.V. Manning
AB   Flt Lt C.W.F. Roach
NAV  Fg Off H.M. MacDonald
WOp  Flt Sgt J. McNeill
MUG  Sgt R.A. Jones
RG   

NOTES:

Operation DODGE

28 Aug 1945

RA563

UL-Q

GLATTON TO FISKERTON

1340

1400

0h20

P1   Plt Off W.F. Weller
P2   
FE   Sgt A.V. Manning
AB   Flt Lt C.W.F. Roach
NAV  Fg Off H.M. MacDonald
WOp  Flt Sgt J. McNeill
MUG  Sgt R.A. Jones
RG   

NOTES:

Operation DODGE

04 Sep 1945

PD271

UL-T

FISKERTON TO POMIGLIANO

0710

1350

6h40

P1   Plt Off W.F. Weller
P2   
FE   Sgt A.V. Manning
AB   Flt Lt C.W.F. Roach
NAV  Fg Off H.M. MacDonald
WOp  WO J. McNeill
MUG  Sgt P.R. Soames
RG   

NOTES:

Operation DODGE

07 Sep 1945

PD271

UL-T

POMIGLIANO TO GLATTON

nk

nk

6h25

P1   Plt Off W.F. Weller
P2   
FE   Sgt A.V. Manning
AB   Flt Lt C.W.F. Roach
NAV  Fg Off H.M. MacDonald
WOp  WO J. McNeill
MUG  Sgt P.R. Soames
RG   

NOTES:

Operation DODGE

07 Sep 1945

PD271

UL-T

GLATTON TO FISKERTON

1545

1625

0h40

P1   Plt Off W.F. Weller
P2   
FE   Sgt A.V. Manning
AB   Flt Lt C.W.F. Roach
NAV  Fg Off H.M. MacDonald
WOp  WO J. McNeill
MUG  Sgt P.R. Soames
RG   

NOTES:

Operation DODGE

PERSONAL INFORMATION

Details

Charles William Francis Roach was born on 26 October 1921 at 195 Queen's Road, Plaistow, West Ham, London, son of Charles William Roach and Margaret Mary Cregan. His brother Ronald was born six years later in 1927 (passed 2000). 

Details of Charles' education are not known but it was recorded that he was a good scholar and sportsman, playing cricket, football, and becoming the school high jump champion at 14 years. After matriculating he started work with Thomas Cook as a travel agent trainee from 1934 to 1938 when he was made unemployed immediately war broke out. From 1939 to his enlistment in 1941, he was employed by the LNER railway company.

EVENTS OF 16 JANUARY 1943 - Attack on Berlin (Charles' own words):

'Our two (crew) gunners were both sick and we were given two replacements, both Canadians. On the way back we were caught and held by a radar searchlight battery and sustained some damage. The pilot said, “Hold on, I’m going down!”, and promptly 
dived the aircraft. Our Lancaster was in a screaming dive and the gunners were blazing away at the searchlights, fruitlessly of course, but the two Canadians were swearing profusely the whole time (Charles disliked swearing intensely).

We pulled out in time and escaped, then after having regained some height had just about got to the German/Dutch border when the Engineer informed the pilot that we must have suffered damage to the starboard fuel tank, and that we had been losing fuel badly. “How long?” asked the skipper. “About half an hour” said the Flight Engineer. 

After about twenty minutes the Flight Engineer was asked about the fuel status. “Fuel for about half an hour” came the reply. The pilot had decreased power to economic revs. and was conserving fuel as best he could, so we didn’t query why we still had half an hour left after 20 minutes.

I worked out a new position and it looked like we were going to ditch just off the Dutch coast, what a prospect. Once across the Dutch coast and over the sea we could break WT silence and let base know what was happening. The skipper asked the Flight Engineer “How are we doing now?”, and the Engineer replied “I reckon we have fuel for about half an hour”. The rest of the crew exclaimed in unison “!X!X”, or words to that effect. Another new position was worked out and relayed to base.

This went on all the way across the North Sea until we finally felt that we could get across the English coast. We were then told to land at the nearest aerodrome at Docking, and we cancelled the request for assistance from the Air-Sea rescue Service which had been standing by. We were brought straight in by Docking but it is fair to say that when the F/E tested the fuel level with a dipstick it 
was almost non-existent!'


Charles’ wife, Hilda, added some further notes from her discussions with him:
'Returning from raid to Berlin, they saw two sets of searchlights to the right and left, which suddenly went out. Next thing, the aircraft was caught in the blinding light of a radar searchlight. The pilot, Paul Hawkins, tried every trick to escape until, in desperation, he told the crew to hold tight – he was going to dive. He put the nose down and the aircraft screamed through the
air from 18,000 feet to 3,000 feet, during which time the two Canadian gunners blazed away in the hopeless attempt to put the searchlight out of action. However, the manoeuvre successfully took the Lancaster out of the searchlight beams and they regained height and set a new course for home. Flak in the turret meant that Charles could only set course by map reading or a fix.

Then followed the discovery that they were losing fuel, resulting in the almost farcical journey back, landing with almost no fuel. For the way that the crew operated during this emergency, both the brilliance of the pilot, the navigational accuracy, and the wireless operator's messages to the emergency services waiting to rescue them below, the pilot was commended by the Rescue Services.'

Following the war, Charles became an air freight import clerk at Northolt and Heathrow airports. He became Manager of the Heathrow office of Globe Transport (now part of Kuhn & Nagel), and was made a Fellow of the Institute of Shippers and Forwarders in the late 1970s.

On 11 October 1947, Charles married Hilda Grace Clark in Northolt, Middlesex and they had three children; Anthony (b.1948), John (b.1952), and Marilyn (b.1953, d.2022)

Charles Roach died in Worthing, Sussex on 18 June 2007. He was 85 years old.  

During his life, Charles was reluctant to talk about his wartime experiences; he was simply grateful to have survived when so many didn't. He was also proud to have served his country and done his duty.

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PHOTOS & DOCUMENTS

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Charles Roach as an Infant

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41 Air School, 9 Course Graduation Dinner - 16 July 1942

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Sergeant Charles Roach - 'Wings' photograph - 18 July 1942

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Charles (on left) and after his Commissioning with his brother Ronald

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The Leland crew, India late 1943-early 1944. Roach is front right

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576 Squadron Logbook -1

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576 Squadron Logbook -2

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576 Squadron Logbook -3

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576 Squadron Logbook -4

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576 Squadron Logbook -5

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576 Squadron Logbook -6

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Charles Roach as a Flying Officer 1945

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Charles Roach with his mother Margaret and brother Ronald circa 1946

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Charles Roach post-war - date unknown

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